Mailbag: Who will pay up?

2013-02-20T08:45:00Z Mailbag: Who will pay up? Albany Democrat Herald
February 20, 2013 8:45 am

Oregonians looking at the future cost of attending, and the funding of, Oregon’s public four-year colleges and universities should be concerned about state Rep. Sara Gelser’s support of House Bill 2787 that would grant in-state tuition for international students illegally in the country.

Crunching some numbers from Oregon State University for years 2012-2013, the estimated undergraduate tuition and fees (15 credits per term) for an Oregon resident is $8,139 per year, while an international student is $22,323 per year.

Under HB 2787, OSU would be required to cut individual tuition and fees for illegal international students attending the university by $14,184 per year.

The result of the legislation becoming law, OSU would lose over a four-year period for every illegal international student attending the university $56,736.

Rep. Gelser’s support of in-state tuition for illegal international students reveals a state legislator lacking a sense of fiduciary responsibility to her voting constituents and, moreover, the state’s higher education system.

Oregonians should contact Rep. Gelser (Rep.SaraGelser@

state.or.us) and ask her the following question: “Representative, who is going to make up the tuition shortfall at Oregon’s public four-year colleges and universities if in-state tuition for international students illegally in the country becomes law?”

David Olen Cross, Salem (Feb. 8)

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(16) Comments

  1. GidBiddler
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    GidBiddler - February 22, 2013 4:14 pm
    More like legal immigrants standing against illegally trafficked aliens..... It is easier to go across the Mexican border and back, than it is to go to an airport and take a flight from Portland to Seattle. There is something terribly wrong with that. Close the border, allow legal immigration (like our ancestors did), and once naturalized they can have all the in-state tuition they want. Until then, let them eat burritos in the sun (in Mexico).
  2. GidBiddler
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    GidBiddler - February 22, 2013 4:10 pm
    Do any of you actually think that this will increase the number of them that become American citizens properly? Really ? By rewarding illegal activity (human smuggling) you are doing nothing more than reinforcing that behavior. Would you give your dog a treat every time he jumped out of the kennel and ate the neighbor cats food? What do you think would happen? I feel like I am living in bizarro world.
  3. Rich Kellum
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    Rich Kellum - February 22, 2013 9:14 am
    which means what bubba....... that if you are only 5% of the population you should not have to abide by the law? or maybe we should give money to them?
    these students can not work unless they steal somebodys Identity, or find a crooked employer, make them legal first before you supply them with tax money
  4. bubbabear64
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    bubbabear64 - February 22, 2013 6:42 am
    According to the lobbyists (mainly the Oregon Student Association) this law was only factoring less than 5% of the states population. Since this is Black History Month, we are once again reminded why this hasn't been the best state for non white citizens to live in because we can count on people like Rich to make up silly excuses about it.
  5. Rich Kellum
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    Rich Kellum - February 21, 2013 8:41 am
    Make whatever silly excuse you want, one group has the right to be here and the other does not, we just seem to be confused as to who we should help. Oregon residents? don't you mean illegal oregon residents..
  6. Rich Kellum
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    Rich Kellum - February 21, 2013 8:39 am
    Because these particular folks are according to the sponsors of the bill.........
  7. Dave Muckey
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    Dave Muckey - February 20, 2013 11:54 pm
    Silly question, Rich. DREAMERS are Oregon residents. Students in Boise are Idaho residents.
  8. Dave Muckey
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    Dave Muckey - February 20, 2013 11:50 pm
    The SPLC has rightfully labeled NumbersUSA as a hate organization. http://goo.gl/hfTH3

    Since yesno is promoting them, we can assume that he, too, is in the same category.
  9. yesno
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    yesno - February 20, 2013 7:05 pm
    Yep, you didn't check the web site Jose. No racism. YOU are the racist moron.
  10. Kenny D
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    Kenny D - February 20, 2013 5:09 pm
    Unless NumbersUSA is a Native American group, this smacks of racism. How far back in your family tree do we have to go to find an immigrant, yesno?

    Yep, checked the website - white immigrants standing against brown immigrants. Hmm.
  11. yesno
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    yesno - February 20, 2013 4:39 pm
    PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST AN AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!

    WHY SIGNING THIS PETITION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS!

    While every petition, fax, email and phone call against the amnesty is important, signing this petition is by far the most important single thing one of your friends or relatives can do.

    The reason is that signing this petition puts a person into an email system at NumbersUSA that will alert them every time one of their elected officials needs to hear something specific about immigration. Nobody else but NumbersUSA runs a customized grassroots mobilization system like this that constantly gathers information on Capitol Hill about your Members of Congress and then lets you know what they are doing, saying and thinking about immigration policy.

    The New York Times and other mass media have repeatedly stated that NumbersUSA's mobilization network led the efforts that defeated the close-call amnesty efforts of 2007 and 2010. But the forces for open borders are far more powerful today. Please help by passing along this Petition to everybody you know.

    https://www.numbersusa.com/sendfax?id=14372
  12. Kenny D
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    Kenny D - February 20, 2013 2:14 pm
    Why are you assuming the possibly-undocumented person is Hispanic? Showing your bias there, Mr Kellum.
  13. Rich Kellum
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    Rich Kellum - February 20, 2013 2:02 pm
    Why is is reasonable to charge somebody from Boise $20,000 extra but give the help to somebody from outside the country............ or do these folks just hate those out of staters...

    so when this takes effect, will the then legal/illegal get affirmative action that would be offered to a citizen that happens to be hispanic?
  14. Dave Muckey
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    Dave Muckey - February 20, 2013 1:19 pm
    Enrollment at Oregon Colleges and Universities for 2011 is listed at 100,300 students. The number of students anticipated in the upcoming biennium is about 40. Cross' agenda has always been the elimination of all undocumented residents from Oregon. He continually refuses to include the benefits this population provide us, nor does he ever calculate the costs that his pogrom will create.

    HB 2787 has been a long time coming, and it's the morally responsible thing to do.
  15. Kenny D
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    Kenny D - February 20, 2013 10:40 am
    A summary of the opponents' argument: "Immigrants are a drain on state resources. Everyone should have a job and pay taxes. Therefore, we, as a people, need to throw up massive roadblocks so immigrants do not have access to education and job training, ensuring they are unemployable. That way, they will be a drain on state resources and we can continue to complain about brown people being a drain on resources." Makes perfect sense.

    Who is going to foot this bill? Long-term taxpayers will foot this bill - taxpayers who have been educated and received job training under this bill. Oh, wait - it pays for itself!
  16. CharlesLee
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    CharlesLee - February 20, 2013 10:01 am
    We all want you to foot the bill David form letter writer.
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